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Your opinions about pageviews... 

41%
39 deviants said I love them, they make me feel better about my art :deviation:
31%
29 deviants said They are ok
17%
16 deviants said I don't care about them :|
7%
7 deviants said Other (tell me)
4%
4 deviants said I loathe them T_T

Devious Comments

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Eddz Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2005  Professional Interface Designer
It gives you confidence, as people are actually stopping by to look at your art. But I don't think you can judge peoples' art by it - it's just a feature that makes dA fun - to an extent.
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kargath64 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2005
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MattGreen Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2005
They are okay, but they shouldn't be placed before artwork. =]
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BettyKwong Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2005  Professional Digital Artist
i don't care about pageviews. people with more pageviews aren't god ~_~ it's just that people think the more popular you are the better at drawing you are.. but i dont think of it this way.. I think people shouldn't take the pageviews so seriously @_@ it's just how many people came to your page that's all.
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dragonpreistess Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2005
i like them they let me see if any one takes the time to look at my work
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Saiyan-puff Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2005
I like pageviews cause it shows that people appreciate what I do. Comments kick butt though. :3
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DJ-Skylark Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2005
I don't mind pageviews. I mean, I'm not an egotist whose art production depends solely on how many views I get. I mean, it feels good when people look at my art, but they don't mean as much to me.

That's why I voted, "They're okay".
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Evilbutterfly666 Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2005
I just think they're way over-rated. Then again, a lot of online communities have similar silly things. When I was part of "The Lounge", a whole bunch of us were racing to be the first person to have 1,000 posts. On "Nanowrimo.org" everyone compares word counts-- but then again, that's legitimate since the whole POINT of that is to write a 50,000 word novel in a month. But the big difference between The Lounge and Nanowrimo and DA is that on the Lounge and Nanowrimo, your stats weren't seen as popularity or as a mark of status like they are here. I find it annoying the way people here seem to take something as silly as pageviews so seriously. Come on, even on Nanowrimo people act more light-hearted about word counts, and your word count is an actual achievement and something you have control over.

...Heh, if you couldn't tell, I'm VERY biased in favor of Nanowrimo.
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ChetRippo Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2005
I like my stuff being looked at, so I think page views help me figure that at lest they came to look.
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Sugarmanx Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
I came here to meet other people and share comments with them. Input on making my artwork better is also a plus.
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Yensil Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
Page views reflect so much more than the number of visitors, though.
They are also influenced by the number of visitors.

I care much more about comments people leave me, and the occasional +fav. :D
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Kunou Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly what little SilverTails says.
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LuisaRafidi Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
I feel really glad when I receive a lot of pageviews, it's shows that the people likes my artworks!
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Jago-Mizukami Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005  Hobbyist General Artist
Well my view of pageviews isn't much... For I neither like nor dislike them... they tell me how many people have been to my page... (But mostly it seems like I visit my page... heh.) ^^;
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smashsweetie Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
they're ok but i hate it when people treat it like some popularity contest (honestly who wants to be popular?) or when my friend comes up and says she'll never get as much as me.
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SigurdHosenfeld Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
Indeed, DA isn't a popularity contest or something :nod:
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SilverTails Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
They're pretty annoying because I find myself getting jealous over other's pageviews, and I really don't want to feel that way. ._.;; But sometimes they do make me feel a little better.
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Ohyeahhero Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
I won't lie, there's something nice about getting them.

But, I don't care as much as I used to, and, I don't base my worth or my work's worth on them.
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Ohyeahhero Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
I won't lie, there's something nice about getting them.

But, I don't care as much as I used to, and, I don't base my worth or my work's worth on them.
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Cab-Rod Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They're a good sign,they can inform that you're an experienced deviant or a very visited one that dserves your art to be looked.Usually happens but like says:"I don't want DA to be a popularity contest" I share the same oppinion.
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RoboLance Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
i just hate overatted artists, and really good underated artists i get angry for...why do they have no pageviews!?!
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xylael Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
They're okay, but they're not an indicator of how good someone is, really.
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Knight-of-Lodoss Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
Of course, they can't be.
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xylael Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
I know lots of people who are really good but have...barely any pageviews. It doesn't mean a thing.
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Knight-of-Lodoss Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
Yes, patience is key to alot of it.
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Knight-of-Lodoss Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
Honestly, I see pageviews treated as some kind of status or position on this site, like its a rank or something. Thats how I see other people treating it. Rather than accepting whatever page view count they may happen to have, they make the count all-important, as if it is the single thing which validates them as an artist or member. Its the same for post counts on forums and the like.

That ideal could no be farther from the truth and its not a healthy way, in my opinion, to look at one's standing anywhere. I see alot of people cheating and basically using what I like to call the "trade off system".

The trade-off system is basically when a user hordes up on a bunch of favorites from artists they may not even like or deviations they may not even like in the hopes that, in return, that other artist will come to their page (therein giving them a single incriment to their page view tally) and thank them for the fave.

While it is proper to thank someone for a fave if the situation warrants it and you have the time, I see bottom feeders abusing the favorites system for this very purpose- so that they will get as many pageviews as they can, because those damn views are so damn important to them and mean more than perhaps their gallery itself. They want to feel bigger and important and they look to pageviews and having a higher one thats ever increasing for that validation when they should take pride in simply doing a good job and being proud and confident of their skills and that they will get better and better.

Alot of people here on DA and other art sites don't share this mentality. The proof is in the number of favorites these people have. Just look at their stats. It is beyond typical now to see a member that has like 1000+ favorites and only like 5 or 10 deviations.

One could say theres no foul in liking every single one of those faves, and part of how this community works and is linking us to eachother is through the fave system, HOWEVER, I'm talking purely of these individuals I've spoken of above.

Pageviews are just a thing, a number, a digit(s). They don't validate you, they don't say anything about you, only of your popularity (if you are popular which is another legitimate cause) and only of your ability to use the system in an imbalanced way to gain a more favorable page view count.

Everyone wants to have more pageviews. Thats not the issue. Its more like why they want them. Alot of people see this aspect of our accounts and presense here as the single factor which makes or breaks them. You could have 500 deviations and only 30 pageviews, and are you any less a success for that? No. You simply haven't gotten that much attention.

But rather than get it through illegitmate means, why not earn it by allowing time, your talent, and the friends you will have in the future to do that for you? That way, its a truely wholesome feeling and then you can honestly say you've earned every single one of those pageviews.

I know I have, and I'm not a hypocrite because the ammount of deviations I have versus the ammount of faves I have is balanced pretty much, and that, in turn, gives me a strong page view tally.

Remember people, pageviews isn't like some grade or score or game. Its just a thing that states a fact. Nothing wrong with being proud in a large pageview count or in seeking a larger one, its how you think when you go about it that matters.

Don't be one of those members who has like 10,000-50,000+ pageviews only because they have a ridiculuous ammount of faves and not because of their talent as an artist or likeability as a user.

Also, in regards to the faves themselves, only fave if you honestly like the picture or the artist, not just because it may get you a watch or a pageview increase. I know I wouldn't want people faving my work just because it will benefit them and their account.

Be proud of the pageviews you have (however great or small) and move forward honestly at a steady pace. This isn't a race or game, and you're not competing with anyone.
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SigurdHosenfeld Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
I totally agree with you.I habe seen lots of people who use the "fave everything" method in a puny attempt to make themselves more "popular" :roll:
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Knight-of-Lodoss Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
Yep. Its unfortunate, and whats sad is alot of people become dependant on the faves rather than on their own talent as an artist. Its almost like self-betrayal in a way.
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xylael Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
Good comment; I couldn't have said it better myself. I appreciate pageviews, and I say so, but...they're not the world to me or anything. I can't see why some people are so desperate for them.
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Knight-of-Lodoss Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
Thank you for sharing my sentiments.

I think its most likely a need on their part rather than a full-fledged desire. To put it simply, perhaps more so than I did before, its all in how much value you put into the views in the first place. Do you need them to feel important? Do you need them to feel validated? Do you need them for your own self-approval and praise or from the mouths of others? Do you need to feel like you're better than someone else with a lower view count? Alternatively, do you feel like less of an artist for having a smaller view count than other artists?

If a person would answer yes to any of the above questions, then I suspect they have either a low self-esteem, misplaced personal merit and value, and/or a superiority/inferiority complex.

For reasons known only to them, I can only speculate as to the reason (afterall people are different), but generally it would see that these needs are meant to take the place of a void these folks have in themselves and in their opinions and outlook of themselves. Its not healthy, like I said. You can't look to other people for value and self-worth. Their opinion of you will be their opinion of you. Should you therefore drive yourself to dispair and being desperate for page views that you'd use the "trade off system" I mentioned earlier?

No. At the most, you should only allow current circumstances to drive you to better heights.

Perhaps I'm being rather preachy, but these seem to be personality flaws I see in more and more deviants these days, not only the younger ones, but some of the more established ones as well.
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xylael Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
You're welcome, you're completely right.

I figured it must be some sort of self-esteem problem, and people I know and care for who have this desire for pageviews I try to convince not to be so needy for them. :/
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hollowzero Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pageviews are alright. I don't like them at the same time though, because some people are stupid and judge others by the amount of pageviews they have.

No amount of pageviews in the world could equal to a well written comment and/or critique, though. :)
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SigurdHosenfeld Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
Indeed, I prefer to receive a good in-depth critique rather than a load of uselles pageviews.
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LadyRaella Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
I like them, I mean, the more people looking at my art, the better! But I'm not like many people who celebrate every 100th pageview...or make commemorative art for it, although that's not a bad thing :) I I suppose I'm just too lazy for that :D
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dboywheeler Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
I chose other. They won't matter since I won't be on for long. I'm going to leave DA soon.
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SigurdHosenfeld Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
You'll leave DA too?Why?
I see that many of my contacts are leaving this place.The madness!
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dboywheeler Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2005
The reason why I'm leaving is even if the issue is resolved, the damage is done.

I still have that pic of Peach coming out of a cake (at least I think I do), if you want it.

And if you remember that one comic of Peach's embarrassment, you can just email the comic to me.
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kargath64 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
I like pageviews, but I appreciate comments so much more.
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Kurama-chan Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like my number of pageviews... ^_^
I don't know if I deserve them or not, but I think it is okay! ^^
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Kurama-chan Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like my number of pageviews... ^_^
I don't know if I deserve them or not, but I think it is okay! ^^
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Kurama-chan Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like my number of pageviews... ^_^
I don't know if I deserve them or not, but I think it is okay! ^^
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jiggerstick Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
i like getting pageviews, but i dont care much about other's pageviews, i know some good artiist with barely any pv's
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Falco-JIS Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
I like pageviews:nod: They bigger the number, the more popular you are:XD:
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luizamoony Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005  Student General Artist
They're ok, I don't get like *oh my gawd, maybe from my two hundred comments on random deviations I should get like 100 pageviews* *chews own hands* @w@

Like HazelIzuki, I just celebrate them! ^^9
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Sage-of-Winds Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005  Professional Digital Artist
I have around 75k pageviews....so, I guess my art's okay ^^;
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HazelIzuki Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
Their OK.

I don't really care much about them, I usually just celebrate them, because I never expected to get that many.xD;
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finalfantasyfanvii Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
really i am trying to go for pageviews... no reason why, but i suppose the more the merrier
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SigurdHosenfeld Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2005
Since I'm not much of an stats wh0re I usually don't pay too much attention to them, but they make my page look better XD
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